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Ever since this list started, one thing has consistantly bugged me. That being people annoucing their intention to leave the list in an unfriendly manner, then listing all of the reasons why. - too much traffic - too much noise - too many "wars' - not enough substance - not enough value - not organized well enough etc. Typically (though not always), these types of annoucenments come from those who have sparingly participated. The one that really gets me is the announcement from a subscriber who rarely posted anything but claims hasn't found enough information to justify him remaining. Well, how about asking the list for information on what it is you're interested in? But my real issue is why the unflattering annoucement? Just unsubscribe. I can certainly understand the guy who's been around for a while helping people, growing his/her knowledge base, and contributing as much in return. who decides it's time to move on. People might miss that guy/lady. So it is out of respect to those on the list that he/she makes a parting annoucement. Not one that takes any shots. Just an announcement about him/her leaving. I completely understand that. It's the, "I'm leaving because you guys stink" kind of annoucements I'm talking about. Why are these necessary? Just leave. ===== Visit my digital photography web site along with a lot of other interesting stuff at http://greer.simplenet.com. Also, Greer and Associates (http://www.greeraa.com) offers studio photography, digital imaging services, web site design/construction, and training. Mike Greer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions.