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Re: So long, and don't slam the door...



Jan,

Am I correct in assuming you were a lurker, because I only see 3 posts
from you - the oldest one is last Friday!  Certainly you're entitled to
your opinion, but less than a week's participation is not a good sampling
of what this group is about. Yes, sometimes people go a little over the
top, but that's life. I can't imagine how you manage in business if a
little skirmish like this put you off.

Anyway, good luck with your Roland.

Diane

Jan Steinman wrote:

> I joined this list to help me decide between an Epson 9000 and a
> Roland Hi-Fi Jet. I just got off the phone from ordering the Roland.
>
> A big factor in my decision was all the dissent in this mailing list.
> Really, you guys are just like school children: "This is the way I
> think it is, and I'm not listening to you anymore!"
>
> I want to do fine art prints. With the Roland, you buy their media
> and ink, warn the customer about "museum conditions," and give them a
> copy of Wilhelm's report on >120 year lifetime.
>
> With the Epson, it seems to be, "If you use THIS paper and THAT ink,
> and don't expose to air, or maybe do, and use THIS topcoat, or maybe
> don't, and hold your tongue just right, or hop on your left foot
> while staring at the ceiling during a full moon, there is no
> consensus about how long the print will last."
>
> My customers have heard all about ink jet fading. They need
> simplicity and re-assurance: "PQM Concorde Rag, Roland Pigmented Ink,
> more than your great-grandchildren's lifetime." What they don't need
> is a bunch of "yeabuts" from self-proclaimed experts.
>
> The Roland ink and media may be more expensive. Maybe not, if you
> count all the futzing it seems to take to get third-party stuff to
> work well on the Epson. Besides, the media cost is inconsequential in
> a kilobuck limited edition print!
>
> To the children out there: go find a chat room for your flames and
> counter flames! Sheesh!
>
> To the adults out there: I have a great deal of respect for your
> temperance in such a high noise environment. Keep being nice in the
> sandbox, and if nothing else, you can at least feel good about
> yourself.
>
> On Monday, I'll be making archival prints. In a year, some of you
> will still be arguing over how to do it.
>
> : Jan Steinman <mailto:Jan@Bytesmiths.com>
> : Bytesmiths <http://www.bytesmiths.com>
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