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No offense Jan, but a big factor in your decision to buy the Roland was the dissent on this mailing list? Who is being foolish now? I don't know a damn thing about the Roland, but I'm not quite sure what the dissent on this mailing list has to do with the technical and archival qualities of Epson printers. Sincerely, Timothy A. Arruda email@example.com -----Original Message----- From: Jan Steinman <Jan@Bytesmiths.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com> Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:26 PM Subject: So long, and thanks for all the fish! >I joined this list to help me decide between an Epson 9000 and a >Roland Hi-Fi Jet. I just got off the phone from ordering the Roland. > >A big factor in my decision was all the dissent in this mailing list. >Really, you guys are just like school children: "This is the way I >think it is, and I'm not listening to you anymore!" > >I want to do fine art prints. With the Roland, you buy their media >and ink, warn the customer about "museum conditions," and give them a >copy of Wilhelm's report on >120 year lifetime. > >With the Epson, it seems to be, "If you use THIS paper and THAT ink, >and don't expose to air, or maybe do, and use THIS topcoat, or maybe >don't, and hold your tongue just right, or hop on your left foot >while staring at the ceiling during a full moon, there is no >consensus about how long the print will last." > >My customers have heard all about ink jet fading. They need >simplicity and re-assurance: "PQM Concorde Rag, Roland Pigmented Ink, >more than your great-grandchildren's lifetime." What they don't need >is a bunch of "yeabuts" from self-proclaimed experts. > >The Roland ink and media may be more expensive. Maybe not, if you >count all the futzing it seems to take to get third-party stuff to >work well on the Epson. Besides, the media cost is inconsequential in >a kilobuck limited edition print! > >To the children out there: go find a chat room for your flames and >counter flames! Sheesh! > >To the adults out there: I have a great deal of respect for your >temperance in such a high noise environment. Keep being nice in the >sandbox, and if nothing else, you can at least feel good about >yourself. > >On Monday, I'll be making archival prints. In a year, some of you >will still be arguing over how to do it. > >: Jan Steinman <mailto:Jan@Bytesmiths.com> >: Bytesmiths <http://www.bytesmiths.com> >- >Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use >accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions. - Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions.