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At 06:09 PM 1/9/00 -0800, you wrote: >> I don't intend to use Wizi profiles with Epson >> inks/media -- I just don't think that combination >> needs any improvement at all from Wizi. In fact, >> that combination continues to be my reference. >> I've never seen any ink/paper combo produce >> a better print, with or without profiles. Epson >> ink on Epson Photo Paper. Gotta love it. > > >I found a significant improvement using wizi for >epson photo paper. Especially in the neutrals and >it took out the extreem reds that the epson >profile produced. Guess I'm not seeing that. And I also would be surprised if Epson themselves hadn't optimized the daylights out of their own paper-and-ink profiles. Perhaps I'll give it a try... but not tonight ;-) I can see this whole game escalating another notch. First comes Wizi, which provides cheap but slightly buggy profiles. Next comes a Profile Editor, probably even more $$ than Wizi. Then you'll ditch the whole thing, 'cuz you realize you need a better delta-e than Wizi can give you... so it's off to X-Rite, then Gretag, and then to the bank to re-mortgage your home. rafe b. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.