Re:The whys of a blacker black

["Gerald Olson" <jerry_olson@und.nodak.edu>]

J. Arthur, It all gos back to how you were trained. At Brooks, we were
taught that in order for any print to be an acceptable print, it had to
have, somewhere in the print, a black that was as black as the paper was
capable of giving you. (In those days, we used Dupont Velour Black
Paper, and Varigam, which had the blackest black of any papers that were
then made, and still stand up with today's finest papers.) This was
stressed over and over, and many a student had to reprint an assignment
because the blacks weren't black enough. The print also had to have a
white somewhere in the print as white as the paper base was. When
comparing any print that did not have these qualities to the reprinted
one that did, the difference was obvious, and was always a better print.
The only exception I can remember to this rule was when we had a high
key assignment, and could only use white and 3 or four shades of light
gray. This is where I learned about how good a really dense black can
make a print. And to this day, I agree with it 100 percent. I have many
prints made with the early Generations inkset. MANY. I have reprinted
them all, and 100 percent of them look much much better with the blacker
ink. Possibly people who don't think this is important don't know the
difference, or haven't seen the difference. Or maybe they CAN'T see the
difference. But there IS a difference, and it is very important to me. 
I don't agree with you that the old ink is as black as 99% of printers
want. Anyone who sees them side by side would probably pick the blacker
ink. Try it.  Of course if the 25% less archival life is important to
you, choose the older ink. I am more than happy with the 35-40 years of
the newer black that they say it is good for.

Jerry

"J. Arthur Davis" wrote:
> 
> Mitch:
> This one I will agree with you. The standard Generation Black is as
> black as 99% of the printers would want. The new black also has a
> shortened life. Norm said you can expect about a 20 to 25% shorter life
> because of the extenders that had to be added to get it blacker.
> 
> Jim Davis
> mailto:jarthurdavis@earthlink.net
> 
> Mitch Valburg wrote:
> >
> > At 12:19 PM 1/1/00 -0800, Cathy Brown wrote:
> >
> > >If the original, weak black is in the cartridges, then what do you
> > >(and others informed on this subject) suggest?
> >
> > You might want to check out the standard Generations black for yourself.
> > Jerry
> > is the only one I recall seeing describe it as weak, a description I would
> > call
> > hyperbolic.
> >
> > Mitch V.
> >
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