Re: Generation Inks

["Bill & Penny" <pilly@telus.net>]

I'm having the same problems with Duel Sided Matte and other matte papers
(Red River for example). Since it always seems to be 1200 users who are
reporting this, I wonder if it can have anything to do with the way the
light magenta & light cyan mix with the black (I've used both old & new
blacks).

I've scanned and posted an example at www.thepitchergallery.com/sample

I want to add that I really like this ink set.  When used with Royal Plush
Paper it produces awesome prints.  While I am having various problems with
glossy and matte papers, I think that it is just a matter of finding the
right papers to work with this printer/ink combination.

In response to a previous post, Patrick Griffin <southpix@eircom.net>
reported getting great results using Lyson 170 gsm matte paper with
Generations inks on a 1200.  Has anyone else tried this combination? (I'm
sending for samples but it will take some time for them to reach the
boonies.)

Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: Murray & Irina Zaharia <zaharia@direct.ca>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: January 1, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Generation Inks


>
> My 2 cents:
>
> I am using Generations with the newer black in a 700 and on photographic
> images I am having a hard time so far on Mediastreet dual sided matte.  I
> have a portrait of a couple taken outside and there is a white fence in
the
> background.  The fence is out of focus with the attention on the couple.
> You can see green grass through the slats of the fence. Where the green
> blends to the white of the fence slats where it is blurred and out of
focus
> and also with some brown, the Generations seems to not be able to handle
> this transition. It looks like a transition you might get on an uncoated
> paper. Also, where brown and black are mixed, such as in hair, there seems
> to be a little of this problem, as well as not seeming as detailed. I
think
> this has to be the transparency problem with pigmented ink. I still need
to
> try to profile this paper and ink with WiziWyG as I have not tried that
yet.
>
>     I have printed this image on my Ex with Epson ink and the same paper
> without this problem.  My 1160 with Archiva ink beats them both on this
> paper and with this image. Now, the new black of MediaStreets is very
black.
> I wonder if it because of this new formulation that I am having this
> problem?  Or just because it is pigmented? I did not try their old black.
It
> seems like the new black will need to be cut back somewhat in order to get
> any detail as it is BLACK.
>  To be fair, I have only tried this ink on MediaStreets dual sided matte
> which I like very much. I would think that on their own paper, this combo
> would work better.
>
>  With my limited testing so far, I am leaning much more toward settling on
> Archiva ink all around.  It prints very well on everything that I have
tried
> so far. This image on the 1160 with Archiva at 4 x 5 is visibly better
than
> my Ex on this paper with oem inks! (sharper and more detailed even with 4
> inks - sorry Rafe!  You will be happier with Archiva than Generations)
>
>  I was planning on using the Generations in my 3000 as I think it would be
> great in that printer for larger and more painterly type images as well as
> photographic. But, I prefer to settle on one ink and will probably use
> Archiva in it as well as most of my images are portraits.  For smaller
> photographic work the combo of the 1160 and Archiva can't be beaten,
except
> perhaps with the 900 and Archiva. (Mile High)
>
> So, I may have a full 6 color set of Generations ink with the new black (8
> ounce) for sale soon if any one is interested.  8-)
> Also, a set of unused oem Epson 3000 cartridges.
>
> But, first more testing...
>
> Regards,
> Murray Zaharia
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
> Anything in Latin sounds profound.
>
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