Re: 120 (year) paper was Kodak paper

[Dave King <kingphoto@mindspring.com>]

>>Rafe wrote:
>>Kaolin is what makes the Epson Photo paper work.
>>Clay, ground up super-fine.
>>
>>Other paper brands also use kaolin... Olmec is one,
>>and Pictorico is another, and surely others as
>>well.
>>
>> If the paper is resin-coated, forget it.
>>(Olmec paper uses kaolin on top of a resin coated
>>base.)
>

>Bob O. wrote:
>I have tried the three "Wilhelm 120 year" papers
>tapestry X
>premium double weight glossy
>(charcoal R - maybe different family)
>which seem to be resin/gel coated
>- - with Sentinel Imaging Inks and Lyson Quadtones
>
>Very, very significant bleeding on several settings
>and with a couple of Lysons simple/generic profiles...
>
>Anyone developed workable profiles
>for dye based inks for these papers?
>
>The Wilhelm test was using Lyson E inks...
>Who the heck got that combo to work?     ;-))
>
>Also interestingly - - for the test - the ink is "Lyson",
>the paper is "Luminos" - - wonder who paid for the testing?

I tried the premimum double weight glossy and charcoal R w/ a 1200 and OEM
ink.  Both bled alot - unusable.  I was warned that the premium glossy
wouldn't work with a 6-ink printer, but that the charcola R would. Jon Cone
said he likes the Tapestry I think.  I make test prints with half letter
size sheets, even at that tiny size the print resolution with oem ink/paper
is quite good.  Printing this size will be the toughest test of bleeding
and may explain some of what drives Epson when engineering their
ink/papers.  Most of their customers are presumably printing snapshots?  I
wonder under what conditions these papers have been made to work?

Dave

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