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At 12:02 AM 11/3/99 -0500, Len wrote: >Did I just blow it by buying the Epson Stylus Photo 1200 for about $397 when >I have just (my 1200 went out the door UPS ground to me today) when I could >have bought the 1160 and its 4 picoliter drop size? > >I appreciate your comments. Len, Archival issues aside, I don't believe there's a better photo printer, for 13" wide prints, than the Epson 1200, in the $400 price range, at this time. It appears that the 6-color printers are taking a hit in the longevity department, because the two diluted inks (light magenta and light cyan) are most likely to fade. So four-color printers are now back in vogue. Epson was handing out samples of prints made on the 1200, at Photo Expo, and they were just stupendous. A couple of folks on the list have decided to go with the latest generation of four-color Epsons, again, for reasons of print longevity. For example, Mr. Nollendorfs has talked extensively about using Ilford archival inks on an Epson 900. Right now, it's hard to know who to believe... I'm vaguely inclined to agree with Jan Faul (dog help me) that there may be something fishy about the latest Wilhelm results. But then, it's in my nature to argue against the prevailing wisdom. ;-) Personally, I've had damned good luck with Epson OEM inks and Epson Photo Paper. I just don't seen the god-awful fading that others on this list talk about. (Knock wood.) And it's not like me to be unusually lucky about such things... There are several other angles to the archival mess that we're in... 1. Keep your prints behind glass, properly matted and framed. 2. Keep your prints away from direct sunlight, extreme temperature & humidity, etc. 3. Use common sense. 4. Avoid cheap papers. 5. Sell your photos with a "replacement" warranty in case of fading. The digital file should still be available if/when you need to re-print. 6. Rotate your photos. Hell, the prints are pretty cheap. Who wants to look at the same picture for 30 years, anyway? 7. Wait a year. Everything will change. There will be new printers, new ink, new papers, etc. rafe b. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.