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Cathy Brown wrote: > You're right ... for those of us who have been paying a premium for inks and > papers, expecting at least greater permanence than Epson OEM. it's hard not > to feel ripped off. Oh, I know it's a moving target and new technology, but > even so. I really think Mr. Wilhelm is pulling the wool over your eyes. Maybe it's even blue wool. Somehow Henry has elevated himself into the position of INKJET GOD, and frankly, I don't believe it. I'll continue to use Fotonics on Velvet and Lyson's own papers. None of my Lyson based prints in offices around the country have faded yet, but the OEM Epsons are all but invisible. Jan -- faces 'n places http://www.artfaul.com Agfa gallery http://www.agfaphoto.com/gallery/pf9707/index.html Wisconsin farms http://www.weslow.net/imagery/jfaul - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.