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Andy. Not real surprising. I think we are all in for many bombshells considering the flood of new inks and papers that hit the market this year. Non of them with formal testing, but all claim to be "archival" There has not been any official reports since Feb 99 reported so I'am sure alot of us have been taken to the cleaners with super expensive inks and papers. Should be very interesting and I'am sure the balace sheets of many companys are at risk. Steve M.>> In a message dated 10/31/99 1:40:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: << I guess I'm the first to discuss this important item: According to the recently released Wilhelm numbers, the 6 color Lyson inks (which would probably encompass Fotonic) are given pitiful ratings on the Epson 5000(similiar to 1200's setup) on two different papers. I didn't check if the new data was posted on wilhelm-research.com, but I'd check this out before investing in that inkset. I can already hear fellow injet lister's jaws dropping! Mine did. -Andy Darlow >> - Please do not include an entire message in your response. Delete the excess. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.