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> The E inks in Somerset Velvet in Black&whites that I do - do not >seem to change colors or tones or demonstrate any significant metamerism >that I have caught so far. If others have please share of course - but it >seems like not very folks are using this ink, which most likely will get the >same longevity ratings thru the Epson's that it does thru the Iris's. Gary > I've recently switched to Lysonic EnduraLE, sold by WeInk, which I'm assuming from the name is the same as Lysonic E inks. My experience matches Gary's--no disturbing metameric color casts, even in the same images that showed metameric effects with Epson OEM inks. The first prints I made using this ink did seem paler when compared to Epson inks, but a little work with WiziWYG profiles and some care in setting black & white points has resulted in satisfyingly rich prints. (I am NOT suggesting this would ever work for Jerry, however.) I print mostly on Rives BFK, Rives Heavyweight, and Archival Poster, although I am also getting interesting results on several Japanese papers. Richard Wohlfeiler - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.