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Thank you for the suggestion, I will try that with my next window test in my new car utilizing "Moddy Look" sun glasses. Window testing is a part of our program of "what will happen if I do this ...", and I do not support or publish or post those results as being meaningful, but interesting nonetheless. We do lab testing under controlled conditions and consider those tests to be meaningful. We are aware of the fact that lab conditions are exactly that, controlled. What the customer does with the paper is beyond our control. George J. Coon Hawk Mountain Art Papers <http://www.hawkmtnartpapers.com> - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.