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Bob: I sent several targets to Jon for profiles for the Generation inks. I sent him targets printed on the 3000 using Hawk Mountain Red Tail and Red Tail Rough paper. I also sent him targets for the Repeat-O-Type Picture Perfect paper. He thought it might take him a couple of weeks to get to it. Extremely busy with classes and other projects right now. I have been using the Generation inks for several week now and have been more than pleased with them. They are not exact matches for the Epson OEM inks but as close as I need them to be. With a bit of tweaking in a set of profiles they will be so close it won't matter. What impresses me most is the inks ability to print reds and purples. Most of the other inks I have tried have printed reds toward an orange rust color. These inks print more of a red with a slight bias to the yellow. More of a warm red. I had someone ask about them being water proof. I think a lot will depend on the paper you are printing on. I soaked a piece of Picture Perfect glossy paper and had no color run at all. The test I did with the Hawk Mountain watercolor sheet had ink movement. It was as if there was a film on the image and it washed off. No wild streaks of ink running. As for a test. George Coon ran a test with his Osprey paper. He printed a test print with the Generation inks on his Osprey paper, sprayed half the print with Optima Spray, covered a strip of the sprayed and unsprayed print with a piece of opaque paper and taped the whole thing to the back window of his car. This print was in the car for 50 days. This was under some extremely harsh conditions, the heat, and humidity of the interior of the car and the direct sunlight. The results were as follows: The area with the covered strip showed no fading. The sprayed half matched the covered area with no fading. The unsprayed, uncovered area lost about 40 to 45% of its density. The colors remained true but the image was just lighter. There was no appreciable shift to any one color. Now I have not had a chance to test any other paper or printers. This test was with the Generation Inks, Hawk Mountain and Repeat-O-Type Paper and the Epson 3000 printer. Jim Davis www.visual-artists.com Robert Snow wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ralph O Brown <email@example.com> > > > SNIP > > In the process of deciding to switch over to Generations as my standard ink, I > > did another round of playing with the MediaStreets Generations inkset on my > > 1200. > > > > SNIP > > > > Previously I had played with the MIS Archival inkset. The colored inks seem > very > > similar to the Generations, but the Generations black is easier to control, at > > least for me. The MIS black is very strong and has to be cut way back with a > > brightness correction curve which is difficult to get right. > > > > Ralph > > > > Ralph: > > Thanks for the details of your experience with the Generations. > > Something I read or heard tells me that Jon Cone will be or is making profiles > for this inkset. If he indeed does, perhaps that will take care of these > anomolies. (for $50, unless the 'retailer' furnishes them free gratis) > > Let us know more as you gain some experience with the inkset...fascinating. > > bob snow > - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.