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>2) His he REALLY going to print 2000 16x20s for his personal use? Yes he is. I have over a hundred thousand negatives taken over the past 35 years. This is not believable for a landscape photographer? 2000? He says >he has that many and he had inferred that with that many images the paper cost >difference would be significant (and it would). But 2000 prints @ 16x20 inches >for personal use? I'm sorry, but I find that a little difficult to believe. I've more or less standardized on the 13x19 size Why is it so hard to believe? I have another 10 or 20 years to do it. I have about 2000 very nice pictures that I want to print. Really! I will be making montages of a lot of them with other pictures and also new pictures to come up with more creative things than I could EVER have done in the darkroom. (Think Jerry Uelsmann) I have all the time in the world to do it. But NOT all the money in the world. I will sell some of these images, give some away, rotate them on the wall, and just keep them to haul out and look at one cold stormy nights. I already have about 200 13x19 prints, only about 1800 to go. > >The only reason I responded to this thread in the first place in because >anytime anybody mentioned Lyson/Luminos papers Jerry immediately responded by >"too expensive" with no qualifications. I always said they were too expensive for ME PERSONALLY. NOT if I SELL the pictures. Finally, I felt I had to respond >because I didn't (and still don't) see where $2-$3 difference per 17x22 inch >sheet makes a whole lot of difference to a person Well, a sheet of 13x19 inch Media Street Matte Photo Paper is a little more than 50 cents a sheet. It has a beautiful matte surface, almost like lambskin, or suede. It is practically identical to the Lyson Photo Matte Suede Paper, but it is whiter, and I can get higher quality prints on it than I can on the Lyson paper. It is a brilliant white. It is NEARLY pH neutral. I have yet to see any fading on it with Fotonic inks, even in very brilliant light. A 17x22 sheet of the D.S. matte paper would probably cost in the neighborhood of a dollar a sheet. A sheet of the Luminos Belgian Linen, or Museum Parchment is over $7 Dollars a sheet. That's about $6.00 a sheet more than what I'm using. Damn it, it HURTS to spend that much money on a piece of paper. I'm a TIGHTWAD, ok? (but I still like the best quality I can get). So sue me if I have contradicting points. When and If I start selling my works, I will use that gloriously expensive Watercolor that everybody says is so nice. I will actually PAY $5.00 a sheet for it. and it will hurt me to do it. To understand this, you must be somewhat of a tightwad yourself. Some people will agree, and some won't. Que Sera Sera Jerry - Please do not include an entire message in your response. Delete the excess. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.