Re: New paper(atten: Jerry Olson and all)

["Jerry Olson" <jerryols@badlands.nodak.edu>]

>Jerry,
> But what I was
>initially responding to was a post you made agreeing with another guy that the
>papers are too expensive to sell to clients and make money with. 

No, I surely didn't mean that. When I actually begin selling the work, I
WILL use the better papers! If someone orders a large color or black and
white print, I will Probably use Either Somerset Enhanced, or Lysons
papers. But for my own use, I can't justify it. Besides the Dual sided
matte and Fotonic inks are beautiful, especially the color images!

I totally
>disagree with that notion. I don't think they are too expensive to be
>profitiable withat 16x20 inches. But even at 8x10, you're talking about $1.25
>for paper and less than $0.30 for ink with the 3000. That's just over $1.50 per
>print. I consider that to be very reasonable. 

I was speaking of the super expensive Luminos papers that were too rich
for my blood. Like Belgian Linen and Flaxen weave. These papers are
gorgeous, but unless I'm selling a two or three hundred dollar print,
they are too expensive. Remember you do NOT get a perfect print each
time you print!
>Just to clarify my point, I think it is false economy to invest in very capable
>prints, high quality scanners, long lasting inks, then the cheapest paper one
>can get away with. 

Mike, there IS something in between. Media Street's Dual Sided Matte is
an Excellent paper. The quality of prints made on it are exceptional. It
is still very reasonably priced.  It certainly is NOT the cheapest paper
I can get away with. I would NEVER use the CHEAPEST paper!

Mike, what do you know of regular fine art darkroom type photography?

There's dozens of papers, some outstanding, like Elite, Oriental Seagul,
Ilford Multigrade IV Deluxe, Forte, and Zone VI etc. These papers are
the finest papers currently available for darkroom use. The Elite is
significantly more expensive than Oriental Seagull paper. I MUCH prefer
the Oriental Seagull papers, as an awful lot of fine art photographers
do. The Elite is very nice, but the oriental, in ADDITION to being very
nice, is MUCH Whiter, which makes all the difference in the world to me.
If you put the same print on 10 different kinds of paper, and look ate
them side by side, there is always one that is much better than the
others. In MY opinion. YOU would probably choose a different one than I
would. In MY case, the most expensive paper is NOT the nicest looking
paper. Just because a paper is the MOST expensive, does not mean it is
the BEST.

Jerry



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