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Dave King wrote: > David, > > Alternatives to RC or plastic color photographic papers? The only > alternatives I can think of are gum bichromates, dye transfers, and > tri-color carbos. None of those historical processes are viable (in the > practical sense) for one reason or the other. C-print materials used to be > made with fiber and gelatin many years ago, but now all Ciba and C's are RC > and/or plastic. There are others, and I commend you for remembering these (you must be nearly as old as me <G>). Nobody's really called me on this in quite a while, so I'm going to have to do a little digging around and find my sources again if you're really interested, but there is/was a source of fiber-based color paper. There are a couple of people doing color prints that are something like dye transfers in that they use separation negs (done digitally, by the way) and use automotive-type pigments placed separately onto a substrate. I know there was one company that actually did this commercially in the northern half of California, and they may or may not still be in business, but there are other folks who have processes that are similar, but not widely advertised. And if I dig a bit more, I think I'll find one or two other processes equally arcane <G>. As for "viability" of the processes you mentioned... If we're talking about a personal "art" process, then any of these can be done and the materials are findable. I even have carbro material languishing in my studio somewhere. If you're talking about a commercial viability, then you're probably correct -- but this is largely because there simply isn't much demand for it. Until recently, I'd begun to think that black and white fiber photography was on its way to becoming a dinosaur, but the resurge in demand for monochrome wedding photography seems to have reversed the trend slighly and temporarily. There's even a tinier demand for palladium/platinum printing, and yet it survives, as do its suppliers. All things are possible. Which is why I'm actually seriously considering building an airplane myself <G> david - Please: Stay on topic. Trim quoted messages. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.
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