Re: Epson Stylus Visual Comparisons

[Jerry Olson <jerryols@badlands.nodak.edu>]

> Jerry,
> 
> You've mentioned price several times as a reason for not using Luminos/Lyson paper. I
> can understand not wanting to pay anymore than you have to. But you're also waiting
> patiently for the Fotonic ink to show in the States for your 1200 I believe. I believe
> you made a post a few months ago stating that you were fed up with fading prints and
> were going to get serious about an archival solution. Well, the Fotonic inks are not
> inexpensive.

They aren't too bad for the 3000.  The Silver Lumiget inks are $15 less
per cartridge than the Fotonics.  I ordered the Fotonics before I found
this out. Some on the list say they are the same, and some say they
aren't. But I bet they ARE similar. 

Lyson Does have a nice Matte Photo paper that is very reasonably priced,
and in all sized. It is $33.80 for 50 sheets of 13 x 19 inch paper. I
can easily live with this paper, and it is Matched to the Fotonic Inks.
The samples Lyson sent from England were exceptionally nice on this
paper.

> It seems to me that for a person that wasn't want to waste time and/or money with
> experimenting with ink/paper combinations, that using the "approved" paper makes the
> most sense. You're strictly looking at the acquisition cost of the paper. But you're
> not looking at the costs involved by not using their paper.

I have the Time. I do NOT have the money.

Mike, I simply can't AFFORD the expensive Papers. I have a couple of
thousand  images I would like to print.  I simply can NOT afford to
spend several dollars a sheet for papers. 

Once I actually start to SELL some images from my web site,  THEN I will
start using the really good paper for THOSE images. 
http://www.westernechoes.com

Trust me, I've spent a mint
> in test various ink/paper combinations for Epson OEM and MIS ink. Out of all my tests,
> all I can say is that choosing Epson paper for Epson ink is a good choice.

I absolutely agree with you on this.

I personally
> like the Konica QP the best. But it has permanence problems. 

I agree with this too.

Ilford Inkjet paper is
> very nice, IF you don't have a lot of black ink areas in the print.

Well, the older paper sucked big time. I have not tried the new stuff.
Someone on the list said it really isn't compatible with epson inks, so
never tried it.  I've tried a LOT of papers. My favorites for overall
quality are Epsons Photo paper, Konica QP Paper, Mitubishi's Diamond
papers,  for glossy prints.  For Matte, Lysons, Media Street's Dual
Sided Matte, and Weber-Valentines 770HCG are awfully nice. I haven't
found any watercolor papers I like because they simply aren't white
enough to suit me. 

I LOVE DEEP rich Blacks, and MUST have them. 

Mitsubishi and
> Repeat-O-Type Picture Perfect are very nice. But they are aboutthe same price as Epson
> Photo Paper and don't offer any real advantages over it (except they *may* last
> longer).
>
As long as comopetitor prices are as much or more than the epson Glossy
photo paper, I'll stick with the Epson. The Lyson Matte is quite nice,
but their glossy paper is again too creamy colored for me.

Jerry.
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