Rafe writes, <<Even at that price, the cost of a RIP is way out of line for those of us in the "amateur" or "hobbyist" category, particularly considering that the printer(s) being driven often cost a small fraction of that amount. I'm talking about personal, non-commercial situations here.>> It would be interesting -- and maybe enlightening -- to know how many people on this list are using Epsons for printing what (excuse the following categories if they aren't exactly appropriate): amateur/hobbyist (in digital art/photography), professional photographer (wedding, portrait, etc.), fine-art photographer (landscapes, wildlife, etc.), fulltime fine artist (digital drawing/painting/collage or scanning oil paintings/watercolors, etc.), graphic designer, people printing maps. blueprints, plots, etc....I get the feeling that we are sometimes comparing apples, oranges, mangoes, and blueberries...Has there ever been an informal survey of the group? Pat - Please: Stay on topic. Trim quoted messages. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.