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I had posted before regarding this problem, but no one had apparently seen it before. The symtom was bad colors being printed, and when a "nozzle check" was performed the yellow patch (sometimes cyan) produced either a 'black' line segment, a black line, or entirely black. I thought I had fixed it by completely un-installing (most) files, and re-installing an older driver ... but the symptom returned yesterday. I temporarliy fixed it again, by turning off the printer and computer and beginning again ... but I suspect the problem will reappear, and it has reduced my workflow to ^always^ checking my nozzles before printing. I believe it would be extremely helpful (to many) if this symptom could be traced ... as if someone else has also seen this. Could it be because I am using 3rd party cartridge chips? (Mediastreet Gen4 cartridges, and now a Niagra II CIS) Windows 2000 tia & cheerios ... shAf :o) Avalon Peninsula, Newfoundland www.micro-investigations.com - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.