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RE: new printer




Lloyd,

I only say beware when conmparing because some people use consumption cost
which includes both ink and paper. A typical paper cost is $0.50-$0.60 per
8x10.

--- Lloyd O'Daniel <lodaniel@bham.rr.com> wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> Right. I didn't intend to include paper costs, since that is constant
> regardless of which printer you use. These are ink costs only. The 2200
> might help there too, by making it easy to use hopefully cheaper roll
> paper.
> 
> Lloyd
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael Greer
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> Subject: RE: new printer
> 
> 
> 
> --- Lloyd O'Daniel <lodaniel@bham.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> > In any event, I took this data and converted it to square inches and 
> > extrapolated for other print sizes. I then found the retail cost of 
> > 2200 carts on the US Epson site store at $10.76 each. (I had 
> > though/feared they might be double that.) Based on all of this, an 
> > 8x12 comes in at $0.64, a 12x18 is $1.45, and a full-bleed 13x19 is 
> > $1.66. (I chose these for full-frame 35mm prints.) This is 
> > substantially less than I have heard from friends and on the various 
> > lists with 2000P's, etc.
> > 
> 
> Lloyd,
> 
> It doesn't look like you've included paper costs in your numbers. Make
> sure when you are comparing against other printers/inks that those costs
> don't include paper costs either. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com 
> > [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jerry Olson
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:56 PM
> > To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> > Subject: Re: new printer
> > 
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > Because I print a LOT of prints, and the 2200 cartridges are quite 
> > small. But you may be right about the 1280. Until I actually see a 
> > print from the 2200, l would find it hard to believe that it could be 
> > a lot better than the 1280. I have NO complaints with the 1280, except
> 
> > it would be nice to print an occasional large print.  If the 2200 had 
> > finer dots, it wouldn't matter at all to me. I cannot see dots with a 
> > 4x Loupe in 1280 prints. I don't think the resolution is different, is
> 
> > it?  So you may be right. The inks probably would be the only reason 
> > to get the 2200, and they are just too expensive for me. Remember I'm 
> > a tightwad. Also, I'm really satisfied with Generation 4 and MIS 
> > archival inks!
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Greer wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- Jerry Olson <jerryolson@rrv.net> wrote:
> > > > Wait for the new 2200 Epson. It will be a photographer's dream
> > > > printer, It has nearly everything any photographer could want, up
> to
> > 
> > > > 13x44 inches. EXCEPT one. It is too new for a CIS system, so it 
> > > > will
> > 
> > > > be awhile until one is ready, if you want to use bulk inks.
> > > 
> > > Jerry,
> > > 
> > > Why would anybody buy a 2200 and even consider using non Epson
> > > UltraChrome ink? The whole reason for getting a 2200 is to gain
> access
> > 
> > > to the UC ink with the 7th lite black hue. If one wants to use bulk
> > > ink, then they're better off with a less expensive but very capable 
> > > 1280. That is, unless the bulk ink they use is syphoned from UC inks
> 
> > > from 7600/9600 ink carts. That will lower print costs, but the
> intial 
> > > cost of this setup will almost be as much as the printer. The CIS
> will
> > 
> > > run about $200. Carts for the 110ml UC ink run about $55 each (B and
> 
> > > H
> > 
> > > Photo). You need 7. Therefore, you need $385 worth of ink. But that
> > > should last a long while. B and H prices the 220ml carts at $90
> each. 
> > > Therefore, it will cost you $630 in ink. But this should last a
> very, 
> > > very long time.
> > > 
> > > So a CIS and the 2200 is an attractive solution. Just realize the
> > > upfront cost will not be insignificant.
> > > 
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> > 
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> > > 
> > > Mike Greer
> > > 
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