Michael, Right. I didn't intend to include paper costs, since that is constant regardless of which printer you use. These are ink costs only. The 2200 might help there too, by making it easy to use hopefully cheaper roll paper. Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com] On Behalf Of Michael Greer Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:41 AM To: epson-inkjet@leben.com Subject: RE: new printer --- Lloyd O'Daniel <lodaniel@bham.rr.com> wrote: > > In any event, I took this data and converted it to square inches and > extrapolated for other print sizes. I then found the retail cost of > 2200 carts on the US Epson site store at $10.76 each. (I had > though/feared they might be double that.) Based on all of this, an > 8x12 comes in at $0.64, a 12x18 is $1.45, and a full-bleed 13x19 is > $1.66. (I chose these for full-frame 35mm prints.) This is > substantially less than I have heard from friends and on the various > lists with 2000P's, etc. > Lloyd, It doesn't look like you've included paper costs in your numbers. Make sure when you are comparing against other printers/inks that those costs don't include paper costs either. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com > [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry Olson > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:56 PM > To: epson-inkjet@leben.com > Subject: Re: new printer > > > Mike, > > Because I print a LOT of prints, and the 2200 cartridges are quite > small. But you may be right about the 1280. Until I actually see a > print from the 2200, l would find it hard to believe that it could be > a lot better than the 1280. I have NO complaints with the 1280, except > it would be nice to print an occasional large print. If the 2200 had > finer dots, it wouldn't matter at all to me. I cannot see dots with a > 4x Loupe in 1280 prints. I don't think the resolution is different, is > it? So you may be right. The inks probably would be the only reason > to get the 2200, and they are just too expensive for me. Remember I'm > a tightwad. Also, I'm really satisfied with Generation 4 and MIS > archival inks! > > Jerry > > > > Michael Greer wrote: > > > > --- Jerry Olson <jerryolson@rrv.net> wrote: > > > Wait for the new 2200 Epson. It will be a photographer's dream > > > printer, It has nearly everything any photographer could want, up to > > > > 13x44 inches. EXCEPT one. It is too new for a CIS system, so it > > > will > > > > be awhile until one is ready, if you want to use bulk inks. > > > > Jerry, > > > > Why would anybody buy a 2200 and even consider using non Epson > > UltraChrome ink? The whole reason for getting a 2200 is to gain access > > > to the UC ink with the 7th lite black hue. If one wants to use bulk > > ink, then they're better off with a less expensive but very capable > > 1280. That is, unless the bulk ink they use is syphoned from UC inks > > from 7600/9600 ink carts. That will lower print costs, but the intial > > cost of this setup will almost be as much as the printer. The CIS will > > > run about $200. Carts for the 110ml UC ink run about $55 each (B and > > H > > > Photo). You need 7. Therefore, you need $385 worth of ink. But that > > should last a long while. B and H prices the 220ml carts at $90 each. > > Therefore, it will cost you $630 in ink. But this should last a very, > > very long time. > > > > So a CIS and the 2200 is an attractive solution. Just realize the > > upfront cost will not be insignificant. > > > > ===== > > Visit my digital photography web site along with a lot of other > > interesting stuff at http://www.mikegreer.com. Also, Greer and > > Associates (http://www.greeraa.com) offers studio photography, digital > > > imaging services, web site design/construction, and training. > > > > Mike Greer > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > - > > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. > > > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. 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