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Konrad The parallel as I see it is that the manufacturers/designers of the lights have patented/copyrighted the "effect" of the light not just the lights themselves. Can profile designers exercise control over the effect of their software seems to be the thrust of the debate... Cheers Pete MacKenzie email@example.com > From: "Konrad Poth" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Reply-To: email@example.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:59:30 -0500 > To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink > > That's interesting. I'm certainly not familiar with French law, but if the > following is in fact true, that would be analogous to prohibiting commercial > photographs of the Washington Monument or the St. Louis Arch at night. > > I don't believe that would stand judicial scrutiny in the USA because it is > within the public domain or purview and if some company chooses to > illuminate a monument for all to see that would also be within the public > domain - it cannot be cordoned off. Besides that, (from a USA viewpoint) I > see no contract between the lighting company and the public, in fact or > implied. It would have to be a matter of "state" law, passed by a > legislature, unlikely to happen here. > > If there is a correlation between the Eiffel Tower and software/profile > debate, it's a little too obscure for me. > > Konrad Poth > ************************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete MacKenzie" <email@example.com> > To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 AM > Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink > > >> Have followed this thread with interest and throw in this analogy as a >> possible illustration of the insidious effects of the control of copyright >> that companies are applying. >> >> The Eiffel Tower in Paris has long been a favourite subject for > photography. >> If you wish to photograph it commercially you are now limited to making >> images during the day. The lights that illuminate it during the night were >> recently replaced with a new and complex system of lighting and the > company >> that made and installed them jealously guards the rights to photograph the >> effect that they create. As a tourist or amateur you can continue to make >> night-time pictures of the tower but as a professional you are unlikely to >> be given those rights. Of course there is nothing to stop you taking >> commercial pictures of the tower at night - as long as the lights are > turned >> off. >> >> See any parallels with the software/profile debate? >> >> >> Pete MacKenzie >> email@example.com >> >> - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.