Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink

[deb bee <fffagel@yahoo.com>]

Actually, I believe that the Rock and Roll Museum in
Cleveland has a copywrite on the building? and you can
not commercially photograph it, I don't know how this
relates to this discussion at all...but  I started
this discussion with a plea for a profile as I had
lost my target for Monaco ezcolor, I have now found my
target and have a profile which is producing a print
with a serious magenta cast..., any suggestions?

--- Konrad Poth <kpoth@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> That's interesting.  I'm certainly not familiar with
> French law, but if the
> following is in fact true, that would be analogous
> to prohibiting commercial
> photographs of the Washington Monument or the St.
> Louis Arch at night.
> 
> I don't believe that would stand judicial scrutiny
> in the USA because it is
> within the public domain or purview and if some
> company chooses to
> illuminate a monument for all to see that would also
> be within the public
> domain - it cannot be cordoned off.  Besides that,
> (from a USA viewpoint) I
> see no contract between the lighting company and the
> public, in fact or
> implied.  It would have to be a matter of "state"
> law, passed by a
> legislature, unlikely to happen here.
> 
> If there is a correlation between the Eiffel Tower
> and software/profile
> debate, it's a little too obscure for me.
> 
> Konrad Poth
> **************************************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete MacKenzie" <petemackenzie@lineone.net>
> To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink
> 
> 
> > Have followed this thread with interest and throw
> in this analogy as a
> > possible illustration of the insidious effects of
> the control of copyright
> > that companies are applying.
> >
> > The Eiffel Tower in Paris has long been a
> favourite subject for
> photography.
> > If you wish to photograph it commercially you are
> now limited to making
> > images during the day. The lights that illuminate
> it during the night were
> > recently replaced with a new and complex system of
> lighting and the
> company
> > that made and installed them jealously guards the
> rights to photograph the
> > effect that they create. As a tourist  or amateur
> you can continue to make
> > night-time pictures of the tower but as a
> professional you are unlikely to
> > be given those rights. Of course there is nothing
> to stop you taking
> > commercial pictures of the tower at night - as
> long as the lights are
> turned
> > off.
> >
> > See any parallels with the software/profile
> debate?
> >
> >
> > Pete MacKenzie
> > petemackenzie@lineone.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Robert L Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>
> > > Reply-To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:36:54 -0400
> > > To: CDTobie@aol.com
> > > Cc: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> > > Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink
> > >
> > > From: CDTobie@aol.com
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:23:49 EDT
> > >
> > > The licensing rights to control distribution of
> the software and
> > > derivatives thereof. If you open most any
> profile, you will find a
> > > tag bearing a copyright notification.
> > >
> > > I guess I would wonder on what basis they claim
> copyright on data
> > > generated by the program.  That would seem
> equivalent to a compiler
> > > vendor claiming copyright on the assembly
> language output of a
> > > compiler, which generally seems nonsensical (I
> haven't even heard of
> > > Microsoft trying to do that).
> > >
> > > I suppose that they might embed other
> copyrighted material in the
> > > profile.  For example, parsers generated by
> Bison (the GNU equivalent
> > > of yacc, a common UNIX tool for generating
> parsers) do embed some
> > > other code verbatim (bison.simple and/or
> bison.hairy), and *that* part
> > > of the code is covered by the GPL, although the
> FSF grants a special
> > > exception for that file.  However, if you were
> to elide that code from
> > > the generated parser, there would be no issue. 
> Is it possible to
> > > separate the (presumably) fixed, copyrighted
> part of the profile from
> > > the rest of the data, and replace it with
> something else?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Robert Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>     
> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> > >
> > > Tall Clubs International  -- 
> http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> > > Member of the League for Programming Freedom --
> mail lpf@uunet.uu.net
> > > Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- 
> http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how
> Linux works."
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