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After using my Epson 1160 with Gen4 inks for the past year I decided that I wasn't happy with the results I was getting with the S041141 Photo Paper. The dark colors were all getting muddied together into a black glob. I thought that's the way it is and would have to live with it but the other day I tried some settings I hadn't tried before. So, anyone that has an 1160 and Gen4 inks and wants to use a semi glossy paper like S041141 (it's really cheap at Costco) and doesn't have a custom profile should think about trying these settings. Afterward, compare the dark areas of some pictures and see if there isn't more detail present. --------- Go to Custum Settings/Advanced Media Type: Photo Paper Print Quality: Photo- 720dpi Halftoning: Error difusion High Speed: No Finest Detail: Yes Color Management: Color Controls Mode: Photo-realistic Brightness: -16 Contrast: -4 Saturation: +0 Cyan: +0 Magenta: +0 Yellow: +0 I've wasted a lot of paper fooling around with different settings and these give me the closest results to the Epson ink that I have found. John Richmond Alpha Electronics 3846 Pipers Crest San Antonio, Tx 78251 (210) 681-1527 email@example.com - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.