Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink

["Rick Cambra" <slp@2xtreme.net>]

Pete, I liked your article.

I'm a political photographer first, but do weddings.

During the ceremony inside the church, I have not been allowed to use flash,
but everybody in the audiance who has a camera can.

I've never been able to figure it.

Rick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete MacKenzie" <petemackenzie@lineone.net>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink


> Have followed this thread with interest and throw in this analogy as a
> possible illustration of the insidious effects of the control of copyright
> that companies are applying.
>
> The Eiffel Tower in Paris has long been a favourite subject for
photography.
> If you wish to photograph it commercially you are now limited to making
> images during the day. The lights that illuminate it during the night were
> recently replaced with a new and complex system of lighting and the
company
> that made and installed them jealously guards the rights to photograph the
> effect that they create. As a tourist  or amateur you can continue to make
> night-time pictures of the tower but as a professional you are unlikely to
> be given those rights. Of course there is nothing to stop you taking
> commercial pictures of the tower at night - as long as the lights are
turned
> off.
>
> See any parallels with the software/profile debate?
>
>
> Pete MacKenzie
> petemackenzie@lineone.net
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Robert L Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>
> > Reply-To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:36:54 -0400
> > To: CDTobie@aol.com
> > Cc: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> > Subject: Re: Epson 1280/ MIS Perpetual Color Ink
> >
> > From: CDTobie@aol.com
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:23:49 EDT
> >
> > The licensing rights to control distribution of the software and
> > derivatives thereof. If you open most any profile, you will find a
> > tag bearing a copyright notification.
> >
> > I guess I would wonder on what basis they claim copyright on data
> > generated by the program.  That would seem equivalent to a compiler
> > vendor claiming copyright on the assembly language output of a
> > compiler, which generally seems nonsensical (I haven't even heard of
> > Microsoft trying to do that).
> >
> > I suppose that they might embed other copyrighted material in the
> > profile.  For example, parsers generated by Bison (the GNU equivalent
> > of yacc, a common UNIX tool for generating parsers) do embed some
> > other code verbatim (bison.simple and/or bison.hairy), and *that* part
> > of the code is covered by the GPL, although the FSF grants a special
> > exception for that file.  However, if you were to elide that code from
> > the generated parser, there would be no issue.  Is it possible to
> > separate the (presumably) fixed, copyrighted part of the profile from
> > the rest of the data, and replace it with something else?
> >
> > --
> > Robert Krawitz <rlk@alum.mit.edu>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> >
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> > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf@uunet.uu.net
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> >
> > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> > --Eric Crampton
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