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From: "Konrad Poth" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:09:38 -0500 The ultimate issue seems to be whether an illegal or unethical act is acceptable if the likelihood of repercussion is limited. The issue is really whether this is illegal or unethical at all. Simply because someone *says* that they don't want you to distribute profiles you made yourself using their tools doesn't mean that it's actually illegal or unethical to do so. For example: if you bought a chair at a local store, and then found a tag attached to that chair saying that you could only use it with a table manufactured by the same company, would you really consider it unethical to use it with a different table? In general, the manufacturer of a product can't dictate the conditions of use of that product. There are limited exceptions (e. g. you can't distribute a copyrighted work without the author's permission), but in general a sale is a sale. The theory behind these EULA's seems to be that to use a piece of software at all it has to be copied into RAM, and that that copy is not allowed by fair use (if that copy were allowed by fair use, then the EULA would be a condition imposed after sale, which to my understanding -- and I'm not a lawyer!!! -- isn't kosher). Some court was convinced of that in the 1980's -- it seems a strange decision to me; that copy really doesn't seem to me to be any more permanent than the image formed on your retina by the eye in your lens. -- Robert Krawitz <email@example.com> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail firstname.lastname@example.org Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.