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Mike, > My only point in all of this is that now more than ever, printers, inks, > and paper are systems. It just doesn't make sense to me to buy a 2200 > and use 3rd party ink when access to the UC inks is one of if not the > main reason to even consider a 2200. Agreed. I should have read your original post more carefully. I like the idea of buying the larger cartridges for the 76/9600 and siphoning the ink from them to use for the 2200. For me, the choice is not so much between epson and 3rd party inks: it's between buying separate printers dedicated to b&w and color, or one printer that can do both with virtually the same high-quality results. The extra longevity of the pigment inks is just icing for me; if any of the dye-based inkjets could produce b&w without the metamerism and print to 13x18, I'd gladly go that route. Dan - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.