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sRGB doesn't solve any problems with uncalibrated monitors. There is no profile that will accurately represent all uncalibrated monitors--that's what it means to be uncalibrated. Indeed, you might just as well use your monitor profile for your color space, because that's equivalent to using no color management at all--the condition you have when you use a web browser. sRGB isn't that good a color space because it has a narrow gamut. The gamut of a typical computer monitor is generally wider than sRGB, as is the gamut of a digital camera or scanner. What this means is that these devices are capable of greater saturation of at least some colors. sRGB is sort of a least common denominator between input devices and printers, but it clips the most vivid colors. To say that a printer is "optimized" for sRGB input doesn't really mean anything if it supports ICM. If you turn off ICM, the driver may very well assume sRGB, but if you turn it on, it will obey the profile associated with the image just as well as it would obey the built-in sRGB profile if you turned it off, so you might as well turn it on and use a better color space. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > From: Bernie Epstein > > Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard think sRGB solves a lot of problems with > un-calibrated RGB. Personally, I find sRGB perfect for web > imaging and printing > on my PhotoSmart and Canon S800 photo printers. In fact both of > these printers > are optimized for sRGB input. I've been told that the Epson photo > printers are > also optimized for sRGB. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.