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Just wondering if anyone has successfully profiled the six color Endura (dye "archival" inks) in an Epson desktop photo printer (e.g., 1200, 1270, 1280, etc.) I recently purchased a hex set of Endura inks (from WeInk) for use in my 1280. I've attempted to profile them using ProfilerPro, a Spectrocam, and the 729 patch chart. No luck -- I can't get a smooth color transition in things like skin tones and even the patch chart is noticeably "dull" in the reds and other colors (blues) don't seem to progress in hue across various rows when compared to the OEM chart. I realize there may be a difference in gamut but none of the deficiencies I'm seeing in final printouts (Epson HWM, Epson Photo Paper) are subtle -- as mentioned, huge discontinuities in typical flesh tone areas. I've profiled dozens of ink paper combinations (Generations pigs, dye plug n' play inks) and have never had a problem. BTW, nozzle check is perfect. The supplier did mention that the Endura inks are made to, "archival densities" and this is noticeable when viewing the nozzle check pattern as compared to OEM inks -- the photo magenta and photo cyan are much darker than their OEM counterparts. I'm guessing that the inks, especially the PC and PM are too far off from the OEMs ? Since the amount (and where) of the PC & PM put down is controlled by the Epson driver, perhaps the Endura inks are too far off for even a good profile to correct ?? Any thoughts and/or experience appreciated, TIA. William - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.