AW: Piezography

"Andreas Wistuba" <andreas@wistuba.com> · Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:12:21 +0100

Hi,

To be honest, I would not sell the driver, if I were you. I bought
Piezography BW a while ago and was very happy with the _very_ few
successful prints I made. All the time I had clogging issues on a 1200.
I gave up when I thought I finally had killed the printer for a while.
Then bought an 1160 and tried to run it with MIS FS inks and both,
curves and the piezography driver. By direct comparison with a good
paper, the prints via the Piezography driver simply are better a bit.
Probably the quality increase would not justify to buy into the system,
but if you already own the driver, I'd use it (with the MIS inks).

Bye

Andreas

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]
Im Auftrag von Joel Nisson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. März 2002 05:36
An: epson-inkjet@leben.com
Betreff: Re: Piezography

What price would you sell your piezography software for?
Please respond backchannel to jdn@bird9.com   Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Makris" <nick@mcn.org>
To: "Epson List" <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Piezography

Ken, I've been down this road, Piezography, 1160 and all.  The tech
support for Piezography is somewhat limited - although I have been able
to talk directly to Jon Cone, I never got any satisfaction.

I originally had a 1520 (still have it) and Jon said he has had nothing
but grief with the 1520/3000 (they are apparently the same printer
except for the paper size and they are quite old technology) - he
recommended the 1160 and I was able to get one (BTW, what is your source
for a new one).  The 1160 was somewhat less of a problem than the 1520,
however, the Piezography cartridges I was testing with stopped working
and I had only made a few test prints with them.  They offered me no
resolution to the problem.  FWIW, the design of the Piezography
cartridges appears to cause them to contain less ink and I just chalked
up the whole thing to a bad experience.  I just couldn't justify buying
into the Piezography CIS and their inks for 4-5 times more money when I
never was able to get a good print from the system.

Also, the Piezography starter kit doesn't include a CIS and the ink for
Piezography is the very expensive part, especially if you're using
cartridges and even if you're using the CIS.  The software is designed
to sell the Piezography ink and is not very user friendly.  You can't
save settings that you use - even the last used setting in the software
disappears if you change the printer driver to the Epson and there is
zero support for any other inks.  I sent a long laundry list to Cone but
it fell on deaf ears.

I don't use the system any more, in fact, I use the MIS Full Spectrum
(pigment) inks in my 1160 and the results are wonderful.  If you want to
buy my Piezography Manual and CD I would guess we could work something
out.

I can tell you that I would never have purchased the Piezography system
if I had known what I know now.

My 2¢

Nick
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ken Carney
  To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:00 PM
  Subject: Piezography

  After trying to get  b&w prints from my 1270, with Epson OEM and
third-party inks, it appears the Cone Piezography system is the best way
to go.  I will keep the 1270 for color prints.  Since I'm starting from
scratch on b&w, would appreciate any observations on a printer for
Piezography.  The Epson 3000 is a bit long in the tooth, but from what I
can read is still a good choice.  I can get a new 1160, but then it
requires a CIS.  If what I have read is accurate, the 3000 does not
require a CIS but instead will feed ink from bottles.  So, the price of
a 3000 with the Cone starter kit is roughly the same as the 1160 with a
CIS starter kit, plus I get a larger print size on the 3000.

  Any comments, suggestions, pitfalls greatly appreciated!

    --Ken Carney

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