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I just printed a bunch of greeting cards on MediaStreets Pro Photo lustre paper, an RC coated paper. While I would never use it for fine art, it's very good for greeting cards. I used Generation 4 inks, and there was no problems. No smudging, no wiping off of ink. Just a really nice Greeting Card. Jerry >I think I'm ready to buy the Niagara inking system but > >am still not sure which ink to use, Generations4 or > >Plug and Play. > > Thats the two extremes... rather like deciding to become either a vegetarian, > or go on an all meat diet! > > Here are my questions/concerns: > > > >Generations4 Ink > >I've read they aren't good on resin coated papers. I > >like Epson Premium Glossy Photo and Luster along with > >Red River Matte. Are they resin Coated? What papers > >will work? What's the difference between resin and > >cast coated? Will I have to stick to cast coated > >paper? Does the black ink smudge? > > Resin coated papers squeek under your finger, its like the rosen used on > violin bows. Cast coated papers have a funny, sort-of-glossy, sort-of-matte, > strange sheen; a very artificial looking surface. > > > >Plug and Play Ink > >What is the lifetime? I've heard it's 25 years but is > >that under severe conditions? Can they be used on all > >the papers Epson ink can be used on? > > Probably, being a standard dye ink they would work on most any paper the > Epson ink would. I'd take that life expectancy with a grain of salt... > > > >Overall what are your impressions of the two inks? > > They couldn't be more different; if you were comparing Gen4 to MIs pigment > inks for use on matte papers, that would be an equitable comparison. Or if > you were comparing tht Plug and Prays to some other typical dye ink, or > perhaps the MIS dye ink (a bit less typical) for use on a full range of > papers, understanding there would be very different gamuts and very different > life expectancies on assorted papers, then that would be fairly equitable. > But you are comparing ice and fire... > > >I'll certainly be reprofiling everything no matter > >which ink I choose but will I like the results as well > >as the Epson inks? > > In what way? You won't mistake the pigment ink prints for Epson dye prints... > the PnP you certainly might, but with no real guarantee of added life > expectancy. > > C. David Tobie > Design Cooperative > CDTobie@designcoop.com > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.