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> >> What I don't understand is why I could have a nozzle check, then do a > single cleaning cycle and regress? << > > Just this week I refilled the carts on my Stylus Color 800 and again am > having to deal with sudden clogs, missing test patterns, patchy printouts > and the like, despite care to pop the carts right back in immediately, > cleaning cycles, etc. etc. As frustrated as I am for the nth time (dread > refills for this reason) I am considering jumping brands and going to HP or > Canon. Are those machines as subject to orneriness as the Epson?? What are > the reliability comparisons between brands? I've found with my Epson 1280, I can refill a cartridge maybe twice before all that foam builds up. You know you're out of luck when you pump maybe 4cc's into a completely empty cartridge and it immediately starts spewing out the vent holes. There supposedly methods to deal with getting all that foam that builds up out, but they've never worked for me. My solution, getting a CIS somewhere down the line... -Mike - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.