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Steve, Definitely install the Epson carts first so that you can be sure the refurb is working properly before installing the CIS. The good news is that if you are using Gen4, you do not have to flush the system. Just load Gen4 into the CIS, install it and then run a few purge images (available from Mediastreet as a free download) to clear the Epson ink from the printhead. I suggest about 7 8x10's to ensure you've gotten it all (although I think some people have gone as low as 4 purge images). I don't know if you can do this with Gen5. I have heard conflicting reports. Cathy http://www.catbrownphoto.com Epson FAQ Site: http://home.att.net/~arwomack01/ Epson List Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/epson-inkjet/ -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Steve German Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:15 PM To: email@example.com Subject: New CIS in refurb 1270 I just got a refurbished 1270 from Epson and have ordered Generation 4 inks with a Niagra system for it. I was figuring on installing the Generations/Niagra as the first ink system for it so I wouldn't have to spend $50 on flush cartridges (if I used the OEM's first). Is this advisable, or is there a reason to use the OEM's first, such as making sure the printer works ok before installing 3rd party inks, etc. The options for flushing would be either the 2 jrano carts or 6 4oz. bottles to run through the Niagra system. Either way, it's about $50, but maybe the bottles of jrano would be useful down the road. Any advice from experienced printers would be appreciated. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.