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Udo, Glad to make your acquaintance. I kept hearing your name dropped on the list and wanted to know who you were. It seemed as if everyone was mentioning your name. I visited your site and the spaces are marvelous and the photos of those spaces was also. You are a talented individual. I find myself in the debt of folks like you. I have been given an immense amount of info that I may be able to use at some point. Unlike you I found that I could only afford to get in at the ground level. Here I sit with a perfectly wonderful 1280 and a bunch of ink and paper, all Epson OEM stuff. I can see that you had many struggles like all of us. I am also stubborn and decided that I was going to do this if it killed me, the jury is still out on the issue of my death. I decided that I could not afford someone like you and went ahead anyway. I probably could have saved some money buying something from you. I do have a question if you don't mind. I have discovered that after setting the gamma on my monitor using Adobe gamma I notice in my monitors on-screen controls the monitor was set on 9300K and moved it to what seemed like a more logical 6500K. It looked a lot warmer all the sudden. I am a bit confused. Will that affect my color balancing efforts now since I had been correcting with the monitor set on 9300K? Isn't it better to set it on a number than more closely resembles daylight which in this case is the 6500K setting? Those are the only two options except for a user setting in which one can manually change a red or a blue slider. Any suggestions? I really had thought I had actually covered all the variables. Are there other potholes I will step in in my travels to colour correctness? Thanks, Terrence -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Udo J. Machiels Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:38 PM To: email@example.com Subject: Re: 1280 & Epson Textured... and who is Udo? Hi Terrence, This Udo is me, a funny Dutch freak based in south east the United Kingdom thinking he could help other's with Colour Management. I followed an Art training for Photography in the Netherlands around 20 years ago and have been working in the artistic field ever since. I am at the moment much involved in interior colour design. see for one of my projects: http://www.atmos-wanddesign.de The site is still only in German language, but will be translated soon. It shows that me and my associate (who is from Germany) are internationally orientated. Since we needed highly accurate colour control over any Photowork we needed ourselves for advertising our own work, I ended up to be deeply involved in digital colormanagement. The reasons for that are: 1. Far less control over the final colour output with analogue photography. 2. Not any professional lab could satisfy our needs. And so I ended up going through the pain of learning again making any prints myself, since the workflow is very different compared with an ordinary darkroom. Simple, it is very different technology. First step I took: Trying to calibrate my monitor with with either Adobe Gamma or the Apple Mac monitor control panel. I wasted so much paper, I could have bought already a mid range profiling package. Second Step: I bought a very professional printer. Epson pro 5500 using the Epson pigmented inks. What a disaster: Epson calls this a colour proofer and I ended up with prints having an extremely olive green cast in day-light viewing conditions. Fantastic. Third step: I bought the Colorblind matchbox profiling software and the Spectrocam hardware measuring device. Total price around £ 2000 (Pound Sterling) Result: I ended up wasting even more paper and got even worse output profiles. Can you imaging how happy I was? 4th Step: Because Itec who makes Colorblind blamed Spectrocam and Spectrostar blamed Itec (even much better!!) so I decided to find out myself what is going on and placed my questions on the Apple Colorsync. mailing list. Gradually I started to get some idea. 5th Step: Making decision about going on with digital printing or not at all! 6th Step: OK, I decided to train myself, buy one of the best packages you can find around today and try to recoup some of the investment in supplying other's with the best possible profiles you might be able to get. It's not my main income and probably will not become (At the moment I don't know, maybe things change), probably the interior design business will dominate my life because of the artistic aspects from it. Anyway, technology should be there to help us all in making life easier and more comfortable. It looks like that this whole business of digital printing is for many an absolute nightmare (which it was for me as well) So If I can help? Why not! Regards, Udo J.Machiels Atmos Design United Kingdom (BTW: Thanks Mario for the compliment from you) > > On 12 February, 2002 11:34 AM, "Udo J. Machiels" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > wrote: > >> > Fantastic profiles, so good that I give all my > | customers 100% satisfaction guarantee, only pay if you are happy after > | testing (my) profiles. (Ask Mario and Sally on this Forum, they will > | confirm) >> > > It wouldn't be fair if I didn't confirm this. And not only that Udo's > professional conduct is faultless: excellent human contact too. Also I ended > learning very much with his explanations and advices. > > I have not followed this thread but I would like to say to those that, like > me, are fighting with the problems that appear after the initial fascination > with digital darkroom, that, in my case (Epson 1270 prints on PGPP and HWM > Epson papers, NMC dye inks), moving from Epson inks to a CIS and getting > professionally made custom profiles were two big steps -- I already had > hardware calibration of my monitor and tried (unsuccessfully) profiling with > low cost software using my flatbed scanner. > > Finally I am getting consistent results (now the limitations are completely > of my own and not from my material) and the ink and paper that I am not > wasting is paying quickly my investment. > > A big thanks to all the list fellows for all what I learned with them! > > Mario Teixeira > email@example.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > - > Turn off HTML mail features. 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