Re: epson inkjet output suitable for passport photo?

["Holland StJohn" <holland@rattlers.net>]

My USA passport photos are clearly laminated, not just heat mounted. I used
superglossy paper when I sent in the passport application. They look great.

Holland

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Solomon <laurie@advancenet.net>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: epson inkjet output suitable for passport photo?


> As for the use of the inkjet prints for passports, even in Canada, the
> original questioner was asking about PGPP paper and dye based inks in
> specific; whereas you used matt paper, which did not have many of the same
> problems to the same extent as the PGPP.  To the best of my knowledge, in
> those countries which permit digital prints for passports, the prints are
> heat dry mounted (not laminated) which could result in some possible
> problems in terms of destroying the glossy finish if it is a glossy and
> accelerating fading.
>
> With respect to wedding pictures, the pigmented inks on matt paper will
help
> increase longevity; but putting them behind a clear Mylar overlay should
> help even more in that it is in line with what Epson suggests, which is
not
> the case with passport pictures that do not have any sort of overlay and
> typically are not laminated ( although drivers license pictures frequently
> are).
>
> > I guess we must always stick to the first rule of photography and get
the
> money up front.
>
> But if the quality is poor or deteriorates due to the limitations of the
> materials or the quality of the workmanship, following this rule could
> result in a bad reputation and loss of clients.  It is only a good rule to
> protect from when a client changes their minds as to the purchase due to
> financial, social, political or other reasons which may be matters of
taste
> and not due to the prints lack of durability.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]On Behalf Of Artistic Photography
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:33 AM
> To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> Subject: RE: epson inkjet output suitable for passport photo?
>
>
> I'm from the Great White North, (Canada) and have so far used the 1270
> and matt paper for two passports.  We will have to wait and see what
> happens.  I bought the 2000p printer lately and have been making wedding
> prints on it, we will use a clear overlay in the albums.  My main
> concern is fading in a short (less than 10 - 15 yrs.  The Epson 1270 on
> Prem Gloss was a big disappointment, apparently plain gloss would have
> been a better choice for buis cards and so on but then the water problem
> is greater.  I guess we must always stick to the first rule of
> photography and get the money up front.  Mike
>
> Michael and Mary Messner
> Artistic Photography
> www.artistic-photo.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]
> On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
> Sent: February 12, 2002 10:00 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> Subject: RE: epson inkjet output suitable for passport photo?
>
>
> I doubt it for a number of reasons, some of which have nothing to do
> with the heat criteria. Epson has stated that the PGPP as well as its
> other papers have no guarantees of longevity from air pollutants and
> ozone unless placed behind glass or plastic or otherwise laminated.
> This is not possible with a passport picture.  Moreover since PGPP can
> be dry mounted at RC temperatures which I believe are lower than the one
> quoted which is for fiber based papers, it may melt during the mounting
> process at those temperatures; but even if it does not melt, it will
> tend to lose its glossy appearance and take on more of a matt
> appearance, which may or may not be acceptable to the passport people,
> depending on what countries you are talking about.  In addition, it is
> questionable if the Epson dye based inks in PGPP or other papers are
> waterproof per se, although they might be water resistant.  One would
> need to question the passport people to see if the print needs to be
> waterproof or just merely water resistant since given its use it will be
> expected to be durable.
>
> Then there is the orange fade issue as well as lightfastness issues
> under ultraviolet lighting and other sorts of lighting which may cause
> the print to fade faster than would be the case under ordinary album or
> wall hanging conditions.
>
> All in all, I think that the use of some third party dye based inks or
> pigmented inks on papers other than PGPP might be a better choice if
> they are acceptable to the passport people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]On Behalf Of jeffs@cnsp.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:20 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> Subject: epson inkjet output suitable for passport photo?
>
>
> Is the output from an Epson 1270 with Epson inks and PGPP suitable for
> use as a passport photo.  Regulations require a photo capable of
> withstanding 225 degrees F.  Will this output do that. Thanks, Jeff
>
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