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RE: Why is profiling necessary - it shouldn't be that difficult?????



I used to think that also.  I never could get good color off my 3000.     It
wasn't until I bit the bullet and bought the Monitor Spyder and Profiler
Plus software that I realized how far off I was.  I had monitor profiling
problems as well as problems with using canned printer profiles.  I felt the
only thing I could do to correct it was to make my own profiles.  I wasted
some paper doing the profiling, but it will sure save me time down the road.

Hint:  If you do go with profiling hardware/software, scale the test images
down to half the page.  that way you can use the same sheet again if you
need to reprofile and adjust color settings.  Great for comparing the
effects of the changes and saving paper.

BTW, with my 1280 and the profiler, I am able to print a very accurate
greyscale and fleshtone on the same print which has always been a big
problem.

-Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Atlas" <atlas@icx.net>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Why is profiling necessary - it shouldn't be that
difficult?????


> Nick,
>
> You are apparently blessed by the color gods. I on the other hand am
> besieged by color demons.
>
> I agree with that it shouldn't be this difficult but it certainly has been
> for me.
>
> I will use some of your suggestions and some from some of the other
> respondents.
>
> FYI, I have printed several test images and all the heads are working
> properly. It is just that all my prints so far have been off just enough
for
> me to think I don't have a clue! Off goes the printer till I know more and
> then can begin testing again. It is far too expensive to test the way I
have
> been.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Terrence Mahanna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]On Behalf Of Nick Makris
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:47 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
> Subject: Why is profiling necessary - it shouldn't be that dificult?????
>
>
> Terrence Mahanna wrote:
> > As of this moment I have a bunch of prints that are all over the place
> > (color wise) and no real idea how to get them right. I have Epson matte
> > heavyweight and Premium glossy as well as a roll of 4" premium semi
gloss.
> I
> > have experimented with the glossy and the matte and like both surfaces
but
> > both papers have proven to me I am just spinning my wheels trying to get
> > this right. I have wasted about $75 worth of consumables at this point
and
> > now I have stopped printing until I know a bit more and can begin to
make
> > some headway towards a better print.
>
> I have read many of the posts on this list such as the one above from
> Terrence with great relief - relief that I have never had any of those
kinds
> of problems.  At one time or another I have used color inks in both my
1520
> and 1160 and both have always printed color just like what I see on
screen.
> Even the film scans from my Nikon LS4500 (from 35MM to 4X5, disparate
negs.,
> copy negs, original/copy chromes) and my digital camera always show up on
> screen with the appropriate colors and print just like what I see on
> screen - this has been true from day one.
>
> I know many other digital print enthusiasts who also don't have the
problems
> that have plauged many on this list.  This profiling thing has me very
> confused.  This should be much simpler than what many are experiencing.
>
> Perhaps we could start a discussion about how people in this predicament
> eventually extricated themselves.
>
> One thought does come to mind regarding this problem is to print a test of
> basic colors to determine if all heads are working properly.  The basic
> printer nozzle check is a good starting point.  However, that won't give
you
> the answer to the problem of color shift.
>
> My daughter called me once with a color shift problem and it turned out to
> be a nozzle clog.
>
> On my website www.mcn.org/k/nick, just after the intro, a color/black
patch
> appears that directs you to change the color temperature of your monitor
to
> support the most nuetral view of the image.  You could save/print that
image
> or create one like it to see if it can be printed to look like what you
see
> on screen.  This image prints perfectly on my 1520 with standard epson 4
> color carts.
>
> Most newer monitors have controls to change color temperature - this is
the
> heart of the problem.  If you are color blind or have an odd sense of
color,
> this may be contributing to the problem.  You should be able to print what
> you see on your screen.
>
> I must be missing something here - this approach is too
> simplistic.................
>
> Nick
>
>
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