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I searched and found the Fotonic Ink site and they are dyes inks and the five time refers to the older inkjet dye inks that lasted 1 to 5 years. Their own claims is that the inks last up to 14 years which is only 4 years over Epson's OEM 1270 dye ink on PGPP. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.