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No, Jerry, these are not gray market. They are 'refurbs' direct from Canon who is evidently clearing them out. A bunch of retailers got them, such as Sammy's and Canoga, and several others I have forgotten. they come in a Canon box like off the shelf cameras, and have all the goodies in them. There is no microdrive and the other stuff with that special rebate. Canon guarantees them for 90 days, and in some cases the retailers added another X days. This is all moot now, since I think they are all sold. The point is that there *IS* a new camera coming, and by the activity, it should be fairly soon after the PMA. If you follow the dpr forums, you already know that the new d30 cameras are not being restocked when a retailer is sold out. This seems to be worldwide. I only wish I knew what kind of price tag it will have! Some well connected *guessers* have said that it will retail for about what the Canon D30 started at, i.e., $3000 or so. Who knows! bob snow -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Olson" <email@example.com> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: February 03, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: OT D-30's was Re: Monaco Ezcolor These would be gray market. Since Canon is rebating a 1 gigabyte hard drive and extra battery for the camera, I wonder what happens to that, on those cheaply priced places? and a 90 Day warranty is as good as the seller wants to make it. It isn't canon's warranty. Jerry New D60 is coming this spring. 6 megapixels! -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.