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Sorry Cathy, that's incorrect. William Turner is a different product. These two papers are rebranded Hamnemule German Etching 310. Tyler > Yup, it's the same paper. Both are rebranded Hamnemule "William Turner." > > Cathy > http://www.catbrownphoto.com - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.