Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics

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Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> writes:

> On Tue 24-01-12 14:14:14, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Chris Mason <chris.mason@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> >> All three filesystems use the generic mpages code for reads, so they
>> >> all get the same (bad) I/O patterns.  Looks like we need to fix this up
>> >> ASAP.
>> >
>> > Can you easily run btrfs through the same rig?  We don't use mpages and
>> > I'm curious.
>> The readahead code was to blame, here.  I wonder if we can change the
>> logic there to not break larger I/Os down into smaller sized ones.
>> Fengguang, doing a dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M results in 128K I/Os,
>> when 128KB is the read_ahead_kb value.  Is there any heuristic you could
>> apply to not break larger I/Os up like this?  Does that make sense?
>   Well, not breaking up I/Os would be fairly simple as ondemand_readahead()
> already knows how much do we want to read. We just trim the submitted I/O to
> read_ahead_kb artificially. And that is done so that you don't trash page
> cache (possibly evicting pages you have not yet copied to userspace) when
> there are several processes doing large reads.

Do you really think applications issue large reads and then don't use
the data?  I mean, I've seen some bad programming, so I can believe that
would be the case.  Still, I'd like to think it doesn't happen.  ;-)

> Maybe 128 KB is a too small default these days but OTOH noone prevents you
> from raising it (e.g. SLES uses 1 MB as a default).

For some reason, I thought it had been bumped to 512KB by default.  Must
be that overactive imagination I have...  Anyway, if all of the distros
start bumping the default, don't you think it's time to consider bumping
it upstream, too?  I thought there was a lot of work put into not being
too aggressive on readahead, so the downside of having a larger
read_ahead_kb setting was fairly small.


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