Re: twenty thousands (20, 000) users, which asterisk and how many servers

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Realtime is probably better for administration, but do you want to throw a layer of complication into such a large undertaking?  I wouldn’t want 20,000 people screaming at me because MYSQL crapped out.

 

From: asterisk-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ing CIP. Alejandro Celi Mariátegui
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: twenty thousands (20, 000) users, which asterisk and how many servers

 


Asterisk Realtime is better for administration.

Performance,  IMHO is the same issue. I'm not lucky to made large implementations to test these.

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El vie, 25-05-2012 a las 07:06 -0700, bilal ghayyad escribió:

 
Hi John;
 
For 20,000 users: Is it better to use Asterisk realtime configuration or to use conf files?
 
I readed the below link but did not understand which GUI that works with asterisk realtime?
 
http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime
 
 
Regards
Bilal
 
------------
> 
> > My question is:
> >
> > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> something else?
> >
> > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> will be generated in a conf files.
> 
> Hi Bilal,
> 
> You want to look the Asterisk realtime configuration
> features if you 
> want to run your configuration from a database rather than
> configuration 
> files.
> 
> This should point you in the right direction and get you
> started:  
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime
> 
> It should be noted that if you're wanting to use AsteriskNow
> (which 
> relies on FreePBX for its gui configuration features), then
> Asterisk 
> realtime configuration will not work as it is not compatible
> at this 
> time.  Other web gui's might work, but I am not
> familiar with them.  
> FreePBX's sentiment on the subject is shared here:  
> http://www.freepbx.org/trac/wiki/AsteriskRealtime
> 
> -John
> 
> On 05/24/2012 05:46 PM, bilal ghayyad wrote:
> > Thanks for all for the help and kindly reply.
> >
> > One last point that will help me alot:
> >
> > I am thinking to have 4 Servers running Asterisk and 2
> Servers to be for database. The load to be distributed on
> the 4 Asterisk Servers with ability to be redundant (using
> any redundancy technique). The 4 Asterisk Servers to take
> the configuration from the Database Server and actually
> because there is 2 Database servers, then it will be
> redundant to each other (in case one database failed, the
> other will take over).
> >
> > My question is:
> >
> > Is it really possible to have the asterisk
> configuration in the database server instead of having it in
> conf files? HOW? I am asking this because what I noticed in
> AsteriskNow and in A2Billing and Vicidial or Goautodial that
> whatever I do configuration in the GUI, then the
> configuration will be generated in the conf files, so
> Asterisk will read from the conf files and not from the
> database directly. Is it right or I am confused and there is
> something else?
> >
> > If there is a method to let the configuration to be
> taken from the database (and not from the configuration),
> then HOW? Because even in AsteriskNow, the configuration
> will be generated in a conf files.
> >
> > Special thanks for the advise.
> >
> > Regards
> > Bilal
> > -------------
> >
> >>> Hi All;
> >>>
> >>> I need to use Asterisk for 20 000 users, so
> which
> >> asterisk version to be used? Is there asterisk
> version that
> >> supports 20,000 users on one hardware machine?
> >>> Can I use one strong hardware server i7 with 64
> GB RAM
> >> and fast hard desk to handle 20 000 users, and
> concurrent
> >> calls 2000? Or I need multiple servers, how much?
> >>> If I am going to use multiple servers (until
> now I do
> >> not know how much, and I do not know if the barrier
> will be
> >> the asterisk software or the hardware), then do I
> have to
> >> use special SIP proxy or I have to use load
> balancer)? In
> >> this case, I have to use asterisk Database (so all
> the
> >> servers will read/write from the database)?
> >>> What about AsteriskNow, can it support?
> >> AsteriskNOW is a GUI on top of Asterisk; it does
> not change
> >> the ability
> >> of the system to handle call load.
> >>
> >> Modern versions of Asterisk can easily handle
> 2,000
> >> simultaneous calls,
> >> even with media (non-transcoded) passing through
> the server.
> >> We have a
> >> community member who has improved chan_sip in
> Asterisk 10
> >> (and later) to
> >> be able to handle 10,000 simultaneous calls.
> >>
> >> Handling 20,000 registrations is probably more of a
> concern
> >> for Asterisk
> >> at this point; I've never heard of anyone
> attempting to
> >> handle that many
> >> on one system.
> >>
> >> In spite of all this, though, the other advice
> you've
> >> received in this
> >> thread is sound: even if a single system can handle
> the
> >> load, doing so
> >> is asking for a major problem if that system
> experiences a
> >> failure.
> >> You'd be much better off to at least split the load
> across
> >> two machines,
> >> both of which should be large enough to handle the
> entire
> >> load when
> >> necessary.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Kevin P. Fleming
> >> Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies
> >> Jabber: kfleming@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> | SIP: kpfleming@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> | Skype: kpfleming
> >> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 -
> USA
> >> Check us out at www.digium.com
> www.asterisk.org
 
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