Re: modem not responding

[Tushar <tushar@xxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 15:46, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:49:28PM +0530, Tushar wrote:
> 
> > also.  Actual problem is there are two types of developers on this list
> > .Kernel developer who do not need to answer any one and application
> > developers who have to answer their customers. And customer hardly care
> 
> Customers pay, right?
> 
> > 			So the I think we should support 2.4 kernel for at least some minor
> > fixing with an advice to move to 2.6, and try to get more developer on
> 
> And the "we" you're asking this of here, you're asking this for free?
> 
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> This is one of the reasons why the kernel developers are not always keen to
> volunteer their time to look into other people's commercial problems.
	It's not about commercial or non-commercial, its about problem that
need to be solved.
> 
> But possibly the bigger reason is that questions keep being asked about
> *old* 2.4 kernel versions. People aren't asking about 2.4.26 or 2.4.27,
> but kernels at least 2 years old, that are known to have bugs, and those
> bugs are known to be fixed in later kernels. If you ask a question about
> a problem in 2.4.18, it's quite possible that it's fixed by 2.4.27. So
> you're asking someone to volunteer time to dig through a source tree they're
> no longer that familiar with, with the strong change that their only reward
> is being able to tell you that it's a "problem we already fixed"
> ie COMPLETE WASTE OF THEIR TIME. And remember, THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID
> FOR THAT. No money, and no satisfaction. And you wonder why they don't
> enjoy it?
	Better  u don't answer them. But the move that all MUST use new kernel
throwing away their all work is not correct. I agree that new kernel
should be used for new development, but what about maintenance of
systems which are using older kernel and can't be upgraded so easily? 
	My point is that support for older kernel must not stop suddenly. Give
people enough time to move to new kernel and have smooth transition. The
best way to stop people using 2.4 kernel is to provide better
alternative.      
> 
> If you're being constrained to particular older kernel versions by your board
> or device manufactures, why not put pressure on them to explain their
> reasoning, and if you are a *paying customer* of them and their answer is
> not satisfactory, consider taking your money elsewhere.
	The explanation is most often you will get it after some time. Wait
till that time or start with what u have.
		
	

	
> And if you're wondering "who is he?" and "what does he know about commercial
> use of open source software?", my suspicion is that Perl has a larger install
> base than Linux. :-)
> 
> Nicholas Clark
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