Re: What to install on an amd64 machine?

[Brian Chase <networkr0@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll give blackdown a try, thanks.

Eric Mittelstaedt wrote:

> Brian,
>
> What kind of problems are you having 'installing' java?  It is a very 
> easy install...  Also if you need to use both 32bit and 64bit JVMs, is 
> it a big problem to have a 32bit and 64bit JVM installed, and 
> reference the appropriate one via your JAVA_HOME definition?
>
> Also, have you tried Blackdown?
> http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/JDK-1.4.2/amd64/fcs/
>
> Eric
>
> Brian Chase wrote:
>
> > One issue not yet mentioned in this thread is Java.  Java is painful 
> > to install, and instructions on the Java website are poor at best, 
> > confusing, switching between 32 bit instructions and 64-bit 
> > instructions.
> >
> > Right now, I don't have Java installed.  I need a script that will 
> > take care of it all for me or just have it pre-installed out of the 
> > box.  When will this happen?  I don't have time for this crapola.  It 
> > needs to just work!  Sure, I understand that licensing issues may 
> > prohibit inclusion of Java in Linux, but why then is it free?  Can't 
> > we all just put our heads together, throw the lawyers out of the room 
> > for an hour and fix this once and for all?
> >
> > Flash for x86-64 is non-existent.
> >
> > I haven't tried to replace my yum.conf file with the livna one, 
> > mainly because I'm afraid to get a bunch of unwanted 32 bit apps, 
> > another source of confusion.  Would be nice if all the good apps you 
> > could get off of livna could just be included in the official 
> > repositories.  I feel much of this "unofficial" business with some of 
> > the Fedora support pages is just justified paranoia of our sue-happy 
> > culture we have here in the USA.....Descending from my soap box....
> >
> > Happy New Year to all!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > Alexander Volovics wrote:
> >
> > > In 2 weeks time I will be getting an amd64 machine and I have
> > > been reading up on possible problems.
> > > Because the answers to the questions I would like answered are
> > > contaminated with hardware/software issues when googling or reading
> > > mailing lists I hope to get some unequivocal answers here.
> > >
> > > - Can you install FC3-i386 on an amd64 machine without problems?
> > >  Can the FC3-i386 kernel and drivers handel the hardware without
> > >  problems?
> > >
> > > - Looking at the packages contained in FC3-x86_64 I see both i386
> > >  and x86_64 versions for a lot of things. For example:
> > >  hal-0.4.0-10.i386.rpm and hal-0.4.0-10.x86_64.rpm.
> > >  Are the i386 versions included for 'compat' reasons, so you can
> > >  run i386 apps under FC3-x86_64?
> > >  And are they installed by default when doing a standard workstation
> > >  install or do you add them if necessary?
> > >  If they are available for 'compat' reasons are they sufficient for
> > >  all i386 apps I would like to run or do you sometimes have to add
> > >  extra i386 libraries?
> > >  Can i386 libraries always coexist with x86_64 libraries without
> > >  problems?
> > >
> > > - Do up2date/yum function faultlessly when adding i386 apps to
> > >  a machine running FC3-x86_64.
> > >
> > > - If both FC3-i386 and FC3-x86_64 can run on an amd64 machine without
> > >  problems are there significant advantages for the x86_64 version?
> > >
> > > - I will be getting a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board with an Athlon64
> > >  3500+ socket 399 and an UDMA100 hard drive. Does anybody know of
> > >  any special problems when installing either FC3-i386 or FC3-x86_64?
> > >
> > > Alexander
> > >
> > >  

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