Re: possible problem with scp/ssh/telnet

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On 08/12/2012 07:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 12.08.2012 12:53, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>> On 08/12/2012 06:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 12.08.2012 09:45, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>>>> That normally means that the port is open on the remote side (krazy being your cygwin host) but that the server is not running.
>>> wrong
>> You can't issue a blanket "wrong" and subsequently include what you've said is "wrong". 
> sure becasue "connection refused" means nothing else than connection
> refused and that can be a outgoing firewall, firewall on the
> remote-side and any filter/networking component between the machines
> in most networks you see no difference in teh resposne between
> service not running or connection denied which is what "refused"
> means
>> You could say, "maybe" or "may be not" and then go on to say....
> no because "connection refused" does NOT "normally mean the port is open"
>>> this means that service is not running or a proper firewall configuration is active
>>> iptables can reject with "icmp-port-unreachable" and behaves exactly like that
>>> however, i drop packages since a DDOS where you do not want additional
>>> traffic with ICMP responses......
>> Since the system is a windows system that the OP indicated he hasn't changed, 
>> I choose to believe him, coupled with the failure of "ssh localhost" 
>> leads me to stand by my diagnosis
> yes but the "ssh localhost" came later
> while even this does not say anything in some setups
> i have a server where "telnet lcoalhost 445" leads to "connection
> refused" while SMB is reachable from the local network - the sense
> of this: prevent attacks to zero-day-exploits from php-scripts
> running on the webserver (even if there only trustable scripts)
> here are the ICMP answers you can define for each incoming and
> outgoing rule up to "network unreachable" only on a single port
> to destroy OS fingerprinting:

Whatever you say....

I look forward to your helping the OP to resolve his problem. 

Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled

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