- Subject: Re: annoying brute force attack attempt using ssh
- From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:31:22 -0430
- In-reply-to: <1210944205.6252.1.camel@clansman>
- Reply-to: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 15:23 +0200, Manuel Aróstegui wrote:
> El jue, 15-05-2008 a las 14:41 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht escribió:
> > "jeff emminger" <jemminger@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > isn't password authentication insecure? why not set
> > > "PasswordAuthentication no" and use ssh keys, and maybe port-knocking
> > > too
> >
> > My feeling exactly. You have no control over how stupid a password
> > users will pick. The only control you have is to not allow passwords
> > in the first place and insist on at least a 1k-bit (hopefully random)
> > key.
>
> Although, you can force them to create passwords with numbers, something
> like, for instance, at least 2 numbers and one alphanumeric characters.
> That would help a wee bit to avoid easy passwords that may be broken
> with a basic brute force attack.
Not really. It used to be the case that substituting '1' for 'i', '3'
for 'e', etc. was a good move, but modern password crackers are wise to
this sort of thing. If you don't want a completely random password
(which you then write down and lose :-) my usual recommendation is to
combine two random words with something non-alphanumeric in between,
e.g. lentil*highway. This approximately squares the difficulty of a
brute-force search. Play around with misspellings, words from two or
more different languages, etc.
Of course for really important stuff I keep my random passwords in an
encrypted database on my Palm Pilot (*not* the builtin "security" but a
third-party app).
poc
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