Re: Security Changes For Fedora 9

[David Pullman <dpullman@xxxxxxxx>]

Tomas Hoger wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:57:44 -0700 Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Well, as you say, you need to make sure we force the user to make a
> > regular account first, currently thats not being done. You can do a
> > new install and not create a user account. 
>
> Problem is that you can not create unprivileged account in the
> installer, IIRC.  You are asked whether you want to create normal user
> by firstboot, after system was rebooted.  But that screen is usually
> not seen by users doing kickstart or vnc installation, as was pointed
> out by Tomas Mraz.  So changing the default value to 'no' would mean
> that those users will have no way to log into newly installed systems
> (assuming those methods are frequently used for remote installs with
> no or limited physical access).

Please note that some installations, like ours, would not configure 
local accounts at all, whether during Kickstart or manual install.  We 
use network accounts (LDAP), and we use ssh keys installed for root for 
administration.  So please don't say things like "you need to make sure 
we force the user to make a regular account first", because that is not 
always the case.  Perhaps in a small office/home installation these are 
good points, but not in larger installs with network authentication.

We have dozens and dozens of installs on a network used by researchers 
and we reinstall often and use network authentication, etc.

If you are going to consider this sort of thing, please make sure there 
is a switch somewhere so it doesn't break large site installations.

Thanks very much.

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