Re: [389-devel] about Bug 590826 - Reloading database from ldif causes changelog to emit "data no longer matches" errors

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On 09/07/2011 04:29 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
> On 09/07/2011 05:06 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote:
>> Rich Megginson wrote:
>>> The problem comes from the method we use to check if the changelog does
>>> not match the database in replica_check_for_data_reload().  The RUV in
>>> the database contains obsolete elements from replicas that are no longer
>>> in use.  replica_check_for_data_reload() uses ruv_covers_ruv() to see if
>>> all of the max csns in the database ruv are in the changelog maxruv, and
>>> vice versa.  It fails because the database ruv contains these obsolete
>>> elements not found in the changelog maxruv.
>>> My question is - why do we care?  Isn't it sufficient to check that the
>>> replicageneration in the changelog is the same as the replicageneration
>>> in the database ruv?  The replicageneration is supposed to be the unique
>>> identifier of the "starting point" of the replicated data.
>>> If the data
>>> is reloaded (e.g. from an ldif not created with db2ldif -r), a new
>>> replicageneration will be created, and the data will mismatch.
>> That's right.  And the problem is the database RUV never be updated once
>> the data is reloaded from such an ldif file?
> If the data is reloaded from a "plain" ldif file, a new RUV and new
> replicageneration will be created.
>> Then, the server recreates
>> the changelog every time the server is restarted?
> If the data is reloaded from a "plain" ldif file, the server will see
> that the changelog does not match, and will erase the changelog.  The
> reason why this bug is causing the server to recreate the changelog
> every time it is restarted is because of the extra ruv elements that do
> not match any of the ruv elements in the changelog max ruv.
>> You mentioned "remove
>> them" in the proposed warning.  Is it the only way to adjust the
>> database RUV?
> As far as I can tell, the only way to adjust the database RUV is to
> 1) dump data using db2ldif -r
> 2) manually edit the file to remove the obsolete RUV elements
> 3) reload the data using ldif2db
> Note that, due to
> /export1/share/ds/ds.git(master)>git show e9fa8249|morecommit
> e9fa82493548d84ac7bd2fa1f857db0023ac800d
> Author: Nathan Kinder<nkinder@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   Tue Jan 18 08:29:50 2011 -0800
>       Bug 543633 - replication problems if supplier is killed under
> update load
> ldapmodify to fix the ruv entry will deadlock the server.  See
> for details.
> We should definitely fix the deadlock too.
>>> Or, alternately, leave the check for all of the ruv elements in, but
>>> just warn if the database contains ruv elements not in the cl maxruv
>>> e.g. something like
>>> "WARNING: The database RUV contains these elements not present in the
>>> changelog max ruv:
>>> ....
>>> These elements may be obsolete, in which case you should remove them.
>>> If they are not obsolete, you should check those servers to make sure
>>> replication is occurring."
>> If the database RUV is not used at all, I think there is no benefit to
>> maintain it...  Warning would rather confuse users, wouldn't it?
> We need to have some way to clean up obsolete ruv elements.  I remember
> this issue coming up on the 389-users list some time ago, but I did not
> know that it could lead to data loss.
> I think the warning would be acceptable as long as we had clear
> procedures for removing the obsolete ruv elements and checking the
> status of the other replicas.
I think that a warning is fine too, though a ruv cleanup method is 
needed as you mention.
>> --noriko
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