Re: Proposal: Add more items to the Fedora's CoC

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David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> ha scritto:

> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:58:22 +0100
> > Andrea Veri <averi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > it's been some time now that I notice several people being insulted
> > > or provoked while contributing to Fedora.
> >
> > Sadly, that seems to be the case in any large group... :(

I agree with Kevin, but this aspect could be improved, couldn't it?

> > > One of the possible reasons I see in that is the CoC [1] (Code of
> > > Conduct) missing several important items and most of all the
> > > impossibility to enforce its content when a contributor infringes it.
> >
> > Well, there is:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/CoC_Enforcement
> > which lists out a process to try and resolve conflicts.

A better visibility of the CoC is necessary as just said: sure it's  
done with this?

> > > While punishing someone (i.e suspending his/her FAS account for
> > > example) is definitely not the way to go in a polite community like
> > > Fedora, I would love writing down together with any other community
> > > member interested a reviewed CoC document.
> > >
> > > That said, I would like to point out a few other things:
> > >
> > > 1. the CoC's location should definitely be a page under the
> > >    fedoraproject.org's domain (i.e fp.org/code-of-conduct), and not
> > >    just a two-line wiki page. The CoC is an important document and
> > >    deserves better publicity and openness.
> >
> > I agree. It would be nice if it was a easy to find link, well indexed
> > and not in the wiki burried. ;)
> > Suggestion: if the Board agrees, file a ticket with websites to add it.

I agree. A link in the fedoraproject.org domain would be nice. I'd  
appreciate also a remind to the CoC when opening a FAS account. Not by  
agreeing to it like an agreement, just for information. Why not insert  
the link to the CoC in a welcome mail?

> If this strikes someone as useful just file the ticket with websites -
> no need to involve the board (or anyone else aside from the folks who
> care about the issue and those who do the work) in decisions about
> where to host content that was already blessed by the CWG, the Board,
> and subject to public comment for some time.
>
> --David
> speaking only for myself.

I think it doesn't help only putting a more visible link. The link  
should assure the board, that all the contributors read the CoC. Only  
if this is guaranteed the board is able to resolve definitely a  
conflict if asked. Obviously, the best solution is to resolve  
conflicts directly in the single local groups.
The CoC should in any case indicate the process for resolving the  
conflicts mentioned by Andrea in his first post.

This are my personal opinions.
Robert



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